You were focusing on, how am I going to get water? How am I going to make it through the day without eating? I became hyperaware of being part of the food chain. You were only focusing on the next thing at a time. On a deeper level, I found it kind of relaxing because it was very simple. I found it, like, incredibly physically uncomfortable at all times - constantly thirsty, constantly hungry, like, constantly had thorns in my feet, got surrounded by hyenas a lot. It's literally for the reward of being naked on TV in front of a million strangers.īRAVERMAN: I mean, I found "Naked And Afraid" really fun. I guess you don't get a prize?īRAVERMAN: No, there's no prize. I thought y'all got a prize, but I was doing some reading. RASCOE: You and your husband were actually contestants on a reality survival show, "Naked And Afraid," in 2018. They're all selected to play these roles. This old grouchy guy, who may or may not have a heart of gold - it really remains to be seen. And then we have a young woman who's very beautiful, and she's on the show to be famous, but she has no interest in survival whatsoever. She's working as a survival instructor for, basically, rich tech bros in the Pacific Northwest who want to have a weekend adventure they can brag about. RASCOE: (Laughter) Well, I don't know - that might be a spoiler.īRAVERMAN: You never know what can go wrong when people are stuck out there.īRAVERMAN: So there's a small group of people who are selected for this show, and they're selected to be archetypes, so to speak. Tell us about "Small Game" and who the contestants are who sign up for this show. RASCOE: So I kind of think of this novel as, like, if you cross the TV show "Survivor" with the TV show "Yellowjackets," although this book does not have any cannibalism in it. She's the author of "Dogs On The Trail" about her experiences as a dog-sledder in Alaska. RASCOE: It's a survival competition - a reality TV show, until it isn't. They would forgo all comforts so that viewers didn't have to. The idea was that they'd found one another in the wilderness, this group of strangers and over the course of six weeks, would be tasked with building a new kind of community, something pure and sustainable and right. Canvas tunics and matching shorts, all dyed a dusty brown. Five people are blindfolded, taken to a helicopter and dropped into a lake in the middle of a remote wilderness.īLAIR BRAVERMAN: The show was called "Civilization." Their clothes were fast-fashion prehistoric.
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